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#21 OFFLINE   DakotaCamper

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Posted 25 June 2006 - 06:01 PM

Cuz I love the sound of a diesel. :o

Besides that, we bought the CTD for the same reasons that many others have already listed...longer engine life, diesel was cheaper than gas at the time, wanted the extra power, etc. etc. We're not getting the fuel mileage that I thought we would. We've got just over 20k miles on it and are still averaging 12.5 mpg with the camper on. It's not chipped or Banked. I'm not sure the expense is worth it yet.

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Posted 25 June 2006 - 06:07 PM

Is this a new product? I have not seen nor heard of it before.
Is 2 micron too small to maintain proper pressure and volume to your pump?

Cummins used to use 10 but is now recommending 7... (I don't think I would want to go that small but, may be able to now with the factory pusher pump.)


Yes, World Blend took the place of Stanadynes Performance formula and is recommended by GM for the Dmax. I've ran my RACOR now for almost 3 years and with a flow rate of 45 GPM there's no flow or any other problem to my pump..............................Steve...

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Posted 25 June 2006 - 06:11 PM

Cuz I love the sound of a diesel. :o

Besides that, we bought the CTD for the same reasons that many others have already listed...longer engine life, diesel was cheaper than gas at the time, wanted the extra power, etc. etc. We're not getting the fuel mileage that I thought we would. We've got just over 20k miles on it and are still averaging 12.5 mpg with the camper on. It's not chipped or Banked. I'm not sure the expense is worth it yet.





Yes the expense is worth it! Nice to be able to dial in as much as 100 extra horsepower. My fuel mileage actually improved after I took off the muffle and put a better breathing system and the chip. It improved by nearly 1 MPG. I also have the Jake brake on mine and that investment is also well worth the cash, never touch the brake pedal going down a mountain with a load.
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Posted 25 June 2006 - 06:25 PM

larry i have to agree with you but im a midwest guy the flatlands are in my blood and in my case of a limeted budget i look at dollar point at the current time not in the future.and if i could justify it i would have bought the duramax diesel with the allison tranny in a heart beat.because i do like the mooore power deal
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Posted 25 June 2006 - 06:37 PM

This reply is meant for SnowyBird, thanks for the nice comment about my truck, it gets alot of looks everywhere I go and I like the way the colors match the graphics on my Snowriver camper. The truck I am considering is EXACTLY the same as the one I have now, only it is a 2006 and mine is a 2005, the new truck has a few more options that I don't have right now. Here is the kicker, the 06 diesel is less than $1000 more than I paid for my V10 so that makes the initial price difference negligible, but I am afraid I will really get a lowball figure for a trade-in. Didn't really plan on trading trucks this soon but the price of the new one is really making me think. I am going to have to go talk to the dealer tomorrow and get a trade-in price. Ford also has a incentive of $1100 worth of free fuel if you buy before the end of June but I don't know if that is already figured into the price they have displayed on the windshield.


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Posted 25 June 2006 - 06:53 PM

okey what is CTD....i have a old 1995 cum dsl...old just like me but not crotchedy like me......jim

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Posted 25 June 2006 - 06:58 PM

CTD=Cummins Turbo Diesel

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Posted 25 June 2006 - 06:58 PM

okey what is CTD....i have a old 1995 cum dsl...old just like me but not crotchedy like me......jim



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It is short for Cummins Turbo Diesel



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Posted 25 June 2006 - 07:09 PM

blulund,
Are you saying you're trading the V10 in for a diesel??
If so, it'll be interesting to hear your first hand experience on the differences.


We did about 5000 kms round trip to NE and back and decided to keep it slower than usual. Right around 62-65 mph. We usually drive about 70-75 when going away just for a weekend. The gas mileage really improved by slowing down. The overall mileage was 10.7 mpg for the entire trip, which were very happy with. I believe that's about 9.4 or close in US mpg. We thought the gas guage was broken on the way down (major tail winds). Then, coming back the gas mileage took a dive as the head winds were wicked.
Yes, it worked going uphill, but still could do the speed limit. The V10 has lots of power and gets thirsty when worked, but that's expected with a gasser.

Steve, do you wax all of your engine and components?? :) It looks way too clean, but then I know how much you love your Chevy, so I wouldn't doubt it... :o


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Posted 25 June 2006 - 07:27 PM

…So my question...is a chip necessary??


In my opinion (and for my needs) I do not think that a ‘chip’ is worth it… not so much because of the performance aspects (I believe the CTD is not realizing its full potential from the factory.) BUT… if you read the various websites related to diesels you will find that dealers are voiding engine warranties on new trucks when there is evidence of this type of performance item. This is happening (regardless of the MM Act.) Even if you are in the right by adding an aftermarket chip, try proving it court with the deep pockets of the truck manufacturers. For me it is just not worth the trouble of jeopardizing my warranty. I have plenty of power in the stock configuration.
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Posted 25 June 2006 - 07:30 PM

thanks ireally didn't know ..jim

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Posted 25 June 2006 - 08:01 PM

While at the Nebraska show and rally, I noticed that about 90% of all the trucks were diesels, as my truck is a gasoline burner, I got to thinking why are so many using diesels? Please tell me why you bought a diesel over a gas truck and would you do so again? Please don't turn this thread into a brand war, I already know what I would get if I decide to change. I am just curious if I am missing the boat by driving a gasser.

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Posted 25 June 2006 - 08:44 PM

Ahhhh, the smell of diesel fumes in the morning............Better than a cup of coffee to wake me up.

Oh, yeah.....The extra power is a good thing too. :o
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Posted 26 June 2006 - 08:19 AM

Hi,
I have to chime in here. LOL
I am a big believer in longevity. My record so far is 432,000 miles on a 77 Chevy Caprice Estate Wagon. It has been my experience that vehicles will last as long as one wants to repair them.
Also, second observation, If going for longevity; less is more. By that I mean, manual windows have no motors to break, manual mirrors have no cables to stretch, etc.
A third observation is that after 200,000 miles or so, things wear out that give symptoms that few have experience with. That is, most mechanics and manuals relate to vehicles that are relatively new or have less that 150,000 miles on them, more or less. So, for the average car or pick up, one is basically on their own, as far as expertise is concerned, after 200,000 miles or so. This does not bother me, as I usually do a better job of diagnosing than the dealer people anyway.
Now, I gave away my Chevy Caprice as I got tired of fixing it. It was ready for the third front end, fifth or sixth set of shocks, ? set of tires, fourth transmission rebuild, etc. Power seat no longer worked, steering column was coming apart, gauges no longer worked, etc. Plus it got 12 mpg.
I guess that my point is, I think that most of the vehicles, Gas or Diesel, are good for 200 to 300,000 miles of good service, then they will be less fun to own for the normal user and I think that the normal TC owner will likely put less than 200,000 miles on their diesel.
Now, if I were a commercial hauler, I would absolutely get a diesel, because it will do a million miles of highway hauling/towing. If I still lived in Colorado and went into the mountains a lot; then a diesel would be a must for the turbochargers at altitude or I would put a blower on a gasser. Other than that, I don't think it makes much difference other than personal preference. I got a gasser because it is usually quieter and has easier, less critical, maintenance. However, there are times that I would appreciate the power of a diesel. Yet every time I change the oil, I appreciate the gasser. I guess you pays your money and takes your choice. If I had it to do all over again, I don't know which way I would go.

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 08:30 AM

Steve, do you wax all of your engine and components?? :) It looks way too clean, but then I know how much you love your Chevy, so I wouldn't doubt it... :)


LOL!!!,,,,,Joanne if you're refering to the picture I posted above, it was taken just after the filter installation. I do, however, clean my engine compartment about twice a year with a mild soap and soft brush (no steam cleaning or pressure washing) and then blow dry most components with compressed air. No wax need, Jo, as it cleans up purdy good :lol: :lol: .......................................Steve...

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 07:59 PM

I bought a diesel because it can pull the extra weight much easier. It barely even downshifted to pull the mountains from Missoula, MT and Seatttle, WA and back. I'm quite sure I couldn't have done the same with any gas engine truck. My truck is a '06 F350 Supercab, and I had about 3600 lb camper on board. Constant downshifting runs the transmission temp up which I believe can lead to failure sooner. That's more important than mileage to me.

This truck doesn't have many miles on it, and I hear that mileage will get better. I averaged 12.6 on the way over and about 11 on the way back into a very strong wind traveling between 65 and 68 for the most part. Like I said though, durability is more important to me than mileage. That was without additives since I forgot to put it in, and then didn't find what I wanted on the weekend trip. I expect to get a little better with Diesel Kleen. I know it helped my unloaded mileage. This is a completely stock truck except for the Zoodad modification.

Obviously, diesel's cost more iniitially, but from what I've read you get most of that back on trade in. It gives me piece of mind to be able to pull our mountains with minimal effort, and I expect that to help the longterm durability.
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Posted 27 June 2006 - 04:00 AM

Would have went with one, but wanted the old 12valve pre redesigned body of the older Dodge trucks and finding a 1990-1993 Cummins truck that everything around the engine wasn't beat to shit was a near impossibility. I still marvel at how one succeeds at breaking the selector needle on column, but three trucks I looked at had this problem, all were still running strong engine-wise.

In the end, wound up with another decomissioned Fleet truck from good ole Oregon with the big Pre Magnum/Hemi 5.9L 360 V8. Holley TBI fed beast, coupled with 4.10 gears. Her empty milage is around 12.75 averaged city/freeway for my daily driving and around 13 even for freeway alone.

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 04:40 AM

I got 10.5 mpg this weekend on a trip to Arcadia NP. I never have the fuel problems with my 6.0L gasser in the winter that the diesels do up here, And the price of diesel is almost .30 per gallon more here. I guess if I was able to travel more a diesel might make more sense but for now I'm happy with the GM 6.0L gas engine.

Diesel engine cost more to purchase
Diesel fuel now cost more
Diesel engine is more expensive to repair

Diesel better fuel economy
Diesel more torque
Diesel better fuel mileage

I have a friend with a 6.0L gasser with around 320,000 mi on it untouched, so I don't think that longevity is not the issue it used to be. The diesel may last longer but I never keep a truck for 20 years or even 10 anymore.

They are all good, ???

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 04:45 AM

pslocum, Is that the Vortec 6.0L? My folks 2003 Chevy Express has that one in it and it never got better than 9.5mpg pulling their toyhauler around. its a 1ton SRW, pulling about a 8000lb trailer.

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 06:41 AM

Along the same line of blulunds question. BTW, blulund has one of the nicest trucks around.. :) Did your diesel have enough power/performance without "chipping it".
We met a guy a couple of weeks back that put in one of those "juice chips" $2000 CDN...ouch.
I would be a little upset if I bought a new diesel and then was not happy with the power and had to spend more money to pep it up.
So my question...is a chip necessary??


No.
If a chip is necessary, then the wrong truck was purchased.
A chip will allow two things:
1) Getting away with dangerous stunt driving- like passing when one shouldn't.
2) Racing




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