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#1 OFFLINE   Bob&Val

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 04:42 PM

We bought a used 2008 lace 1181 last year and have been using it but decided we would really like a couch model.
We have narrowed down to the Eagle cap 1160 or 1165 and the Lance 1172. The EC have more storage, wider camper and floor level slides, shorter interior height and taller overall height, heaverier, but have larger tanks.
The Lance has the bunk over the dinette that we really like, lighter and probable under 12' high when on the truck.
I also think lance has better build quality.
Any feedback on what you all think.
For sure when we upgrade it will be at east a double slide.

Edited by Bob&Val, 20 July 2017 - 04:44 PM.


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Posted 20 July 2017 - 08:40 PM

Also look at Host if you are looking at the Eagle Cap models. If you are looking at used, add the Chalet to your list. The EC, Host and Chalet models have their floors above the bed rail which makes for a flat wide floor and less climb into the bed cab over. The Lance floor sits above the wheel wells giving it a lower over all height but 2' narrower floor and more climb into bed.

 

At minimum, you need a 3500 series DRW truck. If you plan to tow behind the camper consider going to a 4500 or 5500 series truck to get sufficient payload to handle these campers and the the additional trailer tongue weight sitting on a 3-4' extension.


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Posted 21 July 2017 - 03:30 AM

We have an 1172 having previously owned a 2005 1181. Loved the 1181 for its storage etc. We just this weekend looked at an Adventurer and some Eagle Caps along with new Lance models. Big issue my wife has is not being able to access the bathroom without opening the slides which we have to do with the 1172. I think all of the newer models had that as a problem still in addition to the fact that I found storage really lacking in most of the other manufacturers along with overall inferior build quality compared to the Lance product. We also looked at a Host that we found kind of strange that the bathroom was basically in the middle of the kitchen living room area. A couple of the models we looked at didn't even have sufficient room for a second battery. The consensus was we are sticking with our paid for 2015 1172.

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Posted 21 July 2017 - 04:51 AM

I'm sure you will eventually find a unit that fits your needs. At least you know that your current one is the best choice right now.

BTW: Host campers come with two battery bays standard and can be optioned with more when ordering a new model.

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Posted 21 July 2017 - 08:07 AM

We have a 2011 F450, so we are about as good as it gets for the truck.
I keep you going back and forth between the 1172 and the 1165. The Lance is cheaper, lighter, and lower overall height, and has the bunk with more total sleeping area. I also believe the Lance is better built and will last longer and hold the value longer.
Bad is no recliner, smaller overall size and less storage and smaller tanks.
One thing that is important to me is the "trunk" area. The Lance is much lighter duty. I want a good place to put my tool boxes, the EC trunk is larger and the floor is much more solid.
It's probably going to come down to how much discount I can get on the 1165. I found the Lance for $43,000. If I can get the EC 1165 for around 45, I think I will go that way.

Edited by Bob&Val, 21 July 2017 - 08:12 AM.


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Posted 21 July 2017 - 08:09 AM

We have ruled out Host. The price and the toilet height and location is why

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Posted 21 July 2017 - 08:45 AM

A new Host Mammoth will be in the $50-60K OTD price range based on the options you choose, so that is more than you want spend. The Eagle Cap 1165 has much more storage than the Lance 1172 because the floor is bed rail height. The EC 1160 layout is closer to the Lance but with more storage. Did you look at the Adventurer 116DS?

 

Toilet height is an issue for people with shorter legs in any of the Hosts because you are sitting on top of the black tank that is part of the slide out. You need some type of folding foot stool for these people. I know light and fan controls on the ceiling are inaccessible for shorter people inside any of these campers, so make sure you can reach them or that they have remote controls or wall mounted switches.

 

BTW: A camper that is off focus from what you have looked at, but may be of interest is the Northstar 12 STC. It's a large camper with easy access to the dry bath, but no slides.


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Posted 21 July 2017 - 09:14 AM

Bedlam you also forgot to mention that those that have the floor over the wheel wells cause the dinnet to be higher for short people from floor to the floor under the table is a good foot to climb up AF is one that has a step just before the floor under the table


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Posted 21 July 2017 - 12:53 PM

Thanks for the feedback, I will look at some of those options.
The location of the toilet on the Host is an issue also. If the slider is not closed the first thing you see when you walk in the camper is the toilet. Other than that, I do like the floorplans.

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Posted 21 July 2017 - 01:02 PM

My step from the kitchen floor to the dinette floor is 7".



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Posted 27 July 2017 - 03:17 AM

You could look at the Lance closeout site some dealer might have an new 1191 that you walk right into the bathroom a very comfortable dinette with excellent tv viewing and tons of storage.Why they dropped that model I,ll never understand going to keep ours until someone comes up with something similar.






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