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#1 OFFLINE   slackercruster

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Posted 11 August 2011 - 08:28 AM

I'm at 92% or so. 10,700 GVWR and fully loaded (but no wife) about 9850 pounds.

If a light trip then am at 88%

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Posted 11 August 2011 - 10:01 AM

At 111% of the original GVWR sticker, rolling at around 10,000lbs all told when I'm fully loaded for the long haul.

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Posted 11 August 2011 - 04:24 PM

I am about 700 to 800 lbs over on a 1 ton dually

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Posted 11 August 2011 - 06:16 PM

My Chevy is rated 11,400 pounds. I weighed it with the camper on, full of fuel, family and dog in the truck, but not much water and no trailer. I was at 13,060. This puts me at about 115% of GVWR. With the boat hooked up and the water tank full I estimate an additional 440 pounds. This would put me at 118% of GVWR. The truck rides and handles great with the Air Lift air bags and KYB MonoMax shocks.

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Posted 11 August 2011 - 06:29 PM

101.25% to 104.95% depending how much water I added to the battery and windshield washer before leaving.
I have been a tent camper since my Boy Scout days long, long, ago. Now I need to get up off of the cold ground to get a good nights rest, a truck camper seems to be the best choice. I am here to learn as much as I can.

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Posted 12 August 2011 - 09:26 AM

Like Wirenut, I'm in the heavy weight division, over 13,100lbs.

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Posted 12 August 2011 - 07:42 PM

I have a 2008 Dodge 2500 Quad Cab 4x4 LB with the 6.7 CTD. The truck is stock except for the 5,000# Super Slides I added. GVWR is 9000# per the door sticker, with a capacity of 1980#. My last TC weighed 2640# fully loaded. Total wet weight on the Dodge = 10,100. My new TC, which I bought today, comes in at a total wet weight of 11,100#, which doesn't include luggage and pots n pans (figure 500#). This brings me to a 11,600# weight. This is 128% of the GVWR for the truck. Am I in trouble? I don't know since I haven't gone anywhere yet. However, since I added the additional springs, my truck is the equivalent of the 3500 model, which has a 10,100# GVWR; by this measure I think I am at 112%. Does this make sense? Do I need to make any changes to my setup? By the way, before I bought the new camper, the best weight figure I could find appeared to be 2900#. I sure erred. (Of course, my wife is now upset since she thinks I bought a TC which is way to heavy for the truck. Is she right? I would appreciate your input.

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Posted 13 August 2011 - 02:29 PM

So you are saying this new camper is 4100 lbs.? That is over a ton above the rated load! I know you are not going to get rid of the truck so make darn sure the tires are rated for the load and I would do some research in whether there are any frame differences between the 2500 and 3500. 2 tons is a lot of weight for a 3/4 ton truck.

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Posted 13 August 2011 - 02:58 PM

This is a laughably clueless question, but if a truck called a 3/4 ton truck can haul two tons, why don't they call it a 2 ton? ??

I did get my truck weighed. I had a full tank and the basic contents. I know everybody says to load it full, then weigh it, but the backpacker in me is much better at weighing things as I stuff them in. So, I have a list of what was in the camper and the truck, and now I know to weigh any new things, and add that to the total.

Everything weighed in 190 pounds over the GVW... That's 103%. The axle weights were fine. Knowing that, I think I can keep the additional stuff to 50-75 pounds. Probably... :rolleyes:

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Posted 13 August 2011 - 04:46 PM

Just did the calculations I'm under GVW by 9%.
But it would be nice if I could shift some weight to the front.
That bike I just bought is heavier than the old one by 80 lb.and it's going to be hanging off the back.

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Posted 13 August 2011 - 06:42 PM

Thanks for the responses. It does appear the SnowRiver weighs over 4000#, but the manufacturer's tag shows 2900#. Of course, the TC now has a full load of water & propane at the same time my Dodge has a full load (34 gal) of diesel. Trying to keep all the numbers within reason has kept me sleepless for months. Today, I measured the height of the Snow River while its on the truck. The total height, including the A/C is 11'10" (I have a 4" platform under the camper to keep the cab over off the truck roof; the distance between the high point on the roof and the bottom of the cab over is 5&3/4". My old TC was only 9' when on the truck. The challenge now is to figure out what the best option is for me. If the Snow River is too heavy for my Dodge, then either I add components to the Dodge to enable it to handle the load or sell the Snow River and look for a different TC. (My wife has already ruled out-I think- my buying a bigger truck. What suggestions do you have? By the way, my tires are the BFG 245/70R17E's that came with the truck; they have 41,200 miles on them with roughly 10,000 miles left in tread wear. This is the challenge of the week. :sign0007: :mad0235:

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Posted 13 August 2011 - 07:24 PM

If yer truck wasn't so dad gum new, I'd point ya to the whole axle swap thing I did to solve an overload problem I had without buying another truck.

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Posted 13 August 2011 - 07:57 PM

My GVW is 10,000 and I should be just under it loaded and ready to camp. I have not had the S&S on red yet cause I started to do some maint that it needed and opened a can of worms........its almost back together though.

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 12:31 PM

My wife laid down the rules! NO NEW TRUCK. :cry_smile: As she said, she was relying on me to obtain the right weight for the truck so we wouldn't need to spend a lot of extra money. She is right, as usual :comp26: . I now need to fix the problems of this unit (which is really nice) but it needs some routine maintenance like tightening up the screws and adding a little sealant where water could leak.
I think my solutions will include: New shocks (probably Bilstien, but could be Rancho 9000XL); sway bar; Sumo bags or air shocks. If that doesn't do it, then I'll consider upgrading to a new tire size. The challenge is to avoid anything which would cause the height of the truck to go up. I already have trouble with my fifth wheel and my wife is only 4'11". She doesn't have the strength to climb a mountain. Thanks for your comments.

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 03:00 PM

Harry, skip the air shocks. Shock mounts aren't designed to hold up weight.

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 04:06 PM

I think you were probably thinking air bags, not shocks. I think the air bags would give the most bang for the buck but tires will be an issue. a camper that heavy should really be on a dually.

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 08:31 PM

I finally got the CAT scale sheets out of the truck and started doing the actual math. The Snowriver, fully loaded with water and propane weighs 3640#. Heavy yes, but workable. I have developed a prioritized list of things to obtain to make sure I can safely travel with the camper. I must do these a month at a time since I don't have the ready cash to pay for everything in one month. Item 1: Install Hellwig Big Wig sway bar (ordered today); Item 2: Upgrade shocks to either Bilsteins' or Rancho 9000XL; Item 3: Upgrade wheels. I'm looking at going to the 18" size since tires are available that have a 3650 load capacity, which would allow me to carry over 7000#. After upgrade 3, then I'll evaluate to see if I need to do anything else. I did find out I can make an adjustment on my SuperSlides to provide more immediate support by moving the bolt to a different hole. This will be the first thing I do.
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Posted 18 August 2011 - 01:59 PM

Thanks for the responses. It does appear the SnowRiver weighs over 4000#, but the manufacturer's tag shows 2900#.


SR weights are given as wet weigh and are pretty accurate. They used to drive each new model (not every individual camper) to the scales & weigh them. My 10.8 is heavy at 3800 ibs. It was within 100 lbs of stated weight when i first picked it up with 2 full propane bottles & a full water tank. Its the accessories added by the end user that change things.

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 03:06 PM

Just as a rule of thumb you can add 1000# to what the dry weight as stated by the manufacturer. This is food, cloths, beer, tools and all the other stuff that we take with us. My self on a three month trip I am about 1200# over the stated weight.
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Posted 19 August 2011 - 04:58 AM

My GMC 3500 SRW is factory rated at 9900 # GVWR. Cat scale says 11200 # fully loaded with full water/fuel/people on the way to AK. It handles fine the way it is set up.
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