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#21 OFFLINE   kerry4951

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 01:29 PM

So soory to hear about your TC disaster. Since I saw the last disaster a few months back, I got into the habit of keeping my truck far enough away from the TC until it is all the way up and ready to load. I made up my mind, if my TC goes down, atleast it will not take out the truck also. Keep everyone away, including the pets, until that thing is inside the bed of the truck. When I unload, I pull the truck out and far away from the TC before lowering it. I'd rather file one insurance claim than two if something goes wrong.

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 04:25 PM

After studying the photos of both TC jack failures , I see both units sitting on grass . The last one looks like
the forward jack pad has sunk into the ground , this would cause the TC to list and shift all the weight off center
to the left.I'm aware of the week nature of the jacks but don't know how much any sort of jack could withstand the load.

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 06:49 PM

Are all jacks the same or are some rated for more weight capacity. In other words, are the jacks on my Laredo the same ones that are put on a 5,000 lb camper?
I have been a tent camper since my Boy Scout days long, long, ago. Now I need to get up off of the cold ground to get a good nights rest, a truck camper seems to be the best choice. I am here to learn as much as I can.

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 07:02 PM

Are all jacks the same or are some rated for more weight capacity. In other words, are the jacks on my Laredo the same ones that are put on a 5,000 lb camper?

I just called up truck camper jacks on Google , this is what I found , most have 3900 Lb. capacity . Not 5400.
Atwood Deluxe Electric Ball Screw Camper Jacks Model 80488

• Designed For Stability
• Versatile, Simple Installation
• Permanently Lubricated
• Complete Control Over Movement
• Cannot Change Position
• 2-3/16" Tubing Diameter
• Extra Large Footpads
• 2,200lb Capacity Per Jack
• 3,900lb. Capacity Set of 4
• Simple Push Button Operation
• Fastest Electric Jacks Available
• Ideal For Long Term Storage
• Easy To Use Manual Override
• Electrostatic Polyester Paint

Rieco Titan Electric Truck Camper Jacks


• 2,500 lb. Capacity per Jack
• 36" Lift (Most in industry)
• Head Swivels 360 Degrees
• Rugged Precision Drive
• Weather-proof sealed power head
• Corrosion resistant Powder Coat paint
• Largest and strongest footpad
• Only dual control in the industry
• Press on button to raise or lower all jacks
• 15 minute "auto shut-down"
• Coded security control
• Wired operation if remote batteries fail
Happijac Remote Control Electric Truck Camper Jack System

This kit should give you everything you need to install a complete set of remote control electric camper jacks on any camper up to 4,000 pounds.

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 08:43 PM

What ever became of the stablelift system?

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 08:59 PM

As I recall, we analyzed the last one to death and I suppose we can do the same with this one but what I want to know is what the heck ever became of the last incident. It was talked about for weeks and then nothing to date that I'm aware of. Was it determined to be the jack, the owner, the ground. Surely the insurance company made a decision.

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 09:17 PM

insurance covered it from what I understand from Tuck. He cut the jack open after & it was not corroded. he is getting a stable lift. he emailed 2 photos of them loading his camper back on the truck after the truck was fixed. I have posted an edited version of his email. (I edited out about 1/2, because some of the information he may not want posted, so i just posted the basic outline of events.)

I just got back to Colorado last night so I thought I would fill you in on
what has happened since I saw you last.

We stayed in Patzcauro for three weeks while dealing with the truck repairs.
Our Mexican insurance company made arrangements for the truck to be hauled
to Morelia to a body shop for the repairs the Monday after the camper fell
onto it.

We finally got word from the body shop 10 days later that they could not
locate a new 8 footbed available in Mexico and that they would need to order
one from the US. Approximate delivery time 4 to 6 weeks.


I paid the body shop $2,000.00 pesos ($ 160.00 US) to straighten the
bed so I could reload the camper. When I went to pick up the truck in
Morelia I was totally shocked by the job they had done in one day. The bed
of my truck looks almost as good as it did before the accident. There is one
small dent just in front of the wheel well and that's the only damage that
is now visible. '


I delivered the camper to Lance in Lancaster CA on April 27, Mike Willams the service manager said it would take 10 to 14 days to repair.

They did repair the damage to the camper nose at a cost of $ 2,500.00 that will be covered by my Mexican Insurance Co. My Mexican
Insurance Co. will not cover the expense of replacing the jacks.

I have ordered a set of Stable-lift jacks from Mont in Kalispell he said I should not have a problem putting them on myself. He has
documents from 150+ people that have experienced jack failures on different campers including several in which the people were seriously injured.


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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:32 AM

Doesn't it seem like there should be a diagonal brace behind the front jacks on a camper? I can see why the front jacks are prone to failing by tipping the camper forward. They bear much more weight than the rear jacks and are unsupported for most of their length. I'm waiting for Dougie to chime in with a simple but great solution.

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 07:39 AM

The risk assessment area of my brain tells me that unloading a heavy camper at a campsite equates with riding a spooky horse on a narrow trail. Something terrible may happen any moment because of spindly legs you can't trust.

When I go someplace where I would like to drive a smaller vehicle, I tow my Jeep.

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 09:11 AM

Looking into one the Stablelift system. Is there a Midwest installer?

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 09:16 AM

Maybe as a stopgap measure?

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 09:21 AM

It does not look like you can use the wobble stoppers while loading or unloading the camper maybe I am missing something with them.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 09:25 AM

Turbo, I don't think he has any installers any where but at the factory he will send directions with them and you could have it done by somebody. If you go to his place of business he will install them for you free and there is great camping over there. Monte is a really nice guy give him a call and ask all the questions you have he is a very strong supporter of NATCOA.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 09:32 AM

Turbo, I don't think he has any installers any where but at the factory he will send directions with them and you could have it done by somebody. If you go to his place of business he will install them for you free and there is great camping over there. Monte is a really nice guy give him a call and ask all the questions you have he is a very strong supporter of NATCOA.
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where is he located?

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 10:16 AM

Just finished reviewing the Stable lift site. Quite impressive. Interesting testimonial section also. It is abit weird looking but apparently it not only lifts/unlifts, but takes the place of the camper tie downs, and levels also safetly and quickly. Seems very steardy. Certainly would have been a whole lot cheaper to have bought those rather than the $19,000 repair bill on the camper and the $6,000 repair bill for my truck. not to mention the possiblity of someone getting hurt. And lets face it, this IS going to happen again to someone, somewhere. Thanks for sharing this site.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 11:17 AM

Turbo, Stable Lift is located in Kalispell Montana. There web site is www.stablelift.com.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 11:24 AM

Nstate, Like I said I am so sorry for you the camper and truck. Stable Lifts are interesting. People I have talked with said that they really like them lots of people don't like the looks of them and all that have them that I have talked to say that they have no problems going camping on back roads with them of course depends on the back roads I am sure. I had thought about getting them for my old camper a long time ago but didn't and now I am looking into it also. I like to off load when we are going to be at one spot for a while (2 days or more ) and I get real nervous when doing it something to think about I guess.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 11:41 AM

insurance covered it from what I understand from Tuck. He cut the jack open after & it was not corroded. he is getting a stable lift. he emailed 2 photos of them loading his camper back on the truck after the truck was fixed. I have posted an edited version of his email. (I edited out about 1/2, because some of the information he may not want posted, so i just posted the basic outline of events.)

I just got back to Colorado last night so I thought I would fill you in on
what has happened since I saw you last.

We stayed in Patzcauro for three weeks while dealing with the truck repairs.
Our Mexican insurance company made arrangements for the truck to be hauled
to Morelia to a body shop for the repairs the Monday after the camper fell
onto it.

We finally got word from the body shop 10 days later that they could not
locate a new 8 footbed available in Mexico and that they would need to order
one from the US. Approximate delivery time 4 to 6 weeks.


I paid the body shop $2,000.00 pesos ($ 160.00 US) to straighten the
bed so I could reload the camper. When I went to pick up the truck in
Morelia I was totally shocked by the job they had done in one day. The bed
of my truck looks almost as good as it did before the accident. There is one
small dent just in front of the wheel well and that's the only damage that
is now visible. '


I delivered the camper to Lance in Lancaster CA on April 27, Mike Willams the service manager said it would take 10 to 14 days to repair.

They did repair the damage to the camper nose at a cost of $ 2,500.00 that will be covered by my Mexican Insurance Co. My Mexican
Insurance Co. will not cover the expense of replacing the jacks.

I have ordered a set of Stable-lift jacks from Mont in Kalispell he said I should not have a problem putting them on myself. He has
documents from 150+ people that have experienced jack failures on different campers including several in which the people were seriously injured.


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Posted 27 June 2010 - 12:15 PM

Turbo, Stable Lift is located in Kalispell Montana. There web site is www.stablelift.com.
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shoot , I'm not going to Montana anytime soon :blink:

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 01:35 PM

After studying the photos of both TC jack failures , I see both units sitting on grass . The last one looks like
the forward jack pad has sunk into the ground , this would cause the TC to list and shift all the weight off center
to the left.I'm aware of the week nature of the jacks but don't know how much any sort of jack could withstand the load.



i would have to totally agree. the jacks could have easily sunk into the ground causing the camper to lean forward , lose stability and fall forward.
i know years ago i have a similar accident, fortunately no damage to the tc or truck.
should have used something under the jacks, such as large 2 x 6 pieces of wood to keep the jacks from sinking in.
it also looks like the camper was far too heavy for the jacks in the first place. 5100 lbs, holy cow.
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