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#1 OFFLINE   RichConley

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Posted 20 December 2008 - 12:25 PM


With the collapse of the truck camper manufacturing base, who's left that makes a truck camper that can sustain below freezing temperatures for more than a few days?





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Posted 20 December 2008 - 01:10 PM

I've never seen anyone do a test of them side by side. I know mine will keep me warm, but I don't know how much propane it is using! I bought a http://www.boaterswo...t/338260094.htm as a supplement for the times when I'm hooked to power. It's has 3 wattage settings although I use the two lower ones 600/900 only because I've heard issues with camper wiring and high wattage for extended periods of time.

It puts out enough heat to keep the propane from running as much.

I've planned to put poly film over the windows as well to help with heat transfer, but my camper has several large windows, and probalby some basic winterizing tricks like the cover for the rear window and fillers for the vent holes and maybe make something similar for my skylight.
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Posted 20 December 2008 - 02:02 PM

In my opinion I would say S&S. No slide of course but will built and insulated.
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Posted 20 December 2008 - 02:03 PM

I'm thinking Northern Lite as to who is still in business.
We had a Bigfoot and know first hand that they do hold the heat in very well, due to their clamshell design.
They are no longer in business, so my vote goes to Northern Lite (if they haven't closed up by now also).


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Posted 20 December 2008 - 02:16 PM

CITATION/CORSAIR are good to -65'C. Should be great for those frosty nights camping in the stuble covered prairies!!!.....................MERRY XMAS...................Steve.... fing32.gif

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Posted 20 December 2008 - 02:33 PM

I think you mean -30 according to the brochure they have 2 in walls and 3/4 of it is a thermal break on the inside like all campers should be. We had 2 of them and you don,t have to worry about anything freezing in the basement because there very well seal down there. Also thermalpane windows and a proper 25,000 furnace, to bad we don,t like there slideout models.

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Posted 20 December 2008 - 08:55 PM

Ordered my Host with (3) 12v tank heaters, (2) 12v basement heaters, (2) 110 outlets in the basement, dual pane glass, Wave 6 heater and dual speed furnace.

I'll be in Yosemite all weed for the holiday in freezing conditions and snow . . . I'm covered.


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Posted 20 December 2008 - 10:46 PM

Any slide camper will be colder than a non slide, its impossible to seal around the slide completely.

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Posted 21 December 2008 - 06:03 AM

On the Hostcamper all they show is a 20000 btu furnace and they say thats all that will fit in the space??

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Posted 21 December 2008 - 06:05 AM

Is General Coach (Citation) still producing campers?

I have always been impressed with their products.


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Posted 21 December 2008 - 06:07 AM

QUOTE (Mooney @ Dec 20 2008, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ordered my Host with (3) 12v tank heaters, (2) 12v basement heaters, (2) 110 outlets in the basement, dual pane glass, Wave 6 heater and dual speed furnace.

I'll be in Yosemite all weed for the holiday in freezing conditions and snow . . . I'm covered.


Sounds like you'd even be ok in Alberta winters with that set-up.
Friends of ours have a Wave heater (in their 5 er) and it certainly is the way to go when camping in colder temps.
And don't forget the mattress warmer. That to me, is the best invention yet for cold weather camping.


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Posted 21 December 2008 - 06:21 AM

I would not hesitate to buy a Bigfoot or Snow River, etc. on a dealer's lot. Just because they are shut down doesn't mean that the dealer won't give you a real good deal and from what I've seen in the Bigfoot, I think that chances of having a structural problem would be minimal. The appliances, etc. are covered by manufacturers warrantees. Those campers are very good in cold weather. East End campers are offering a 5 year extended waranttee on Bigfoot and Okanagan, for example.
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Posted 21 December 2008 - 08:16 AM

QUOTE (Gary @ Dec 21 2008, 06:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
On the Hostcamper all they show is a 20000 btu furnace and they say thats all that will fit in the space??


How big do you think it should be to heat camper? I think the really large RVs have a 40000.
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Posted 21 December 2008 - 09:14 AM

QUOTE (jimh @ Dec 21 2008, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How big do you think it should be to heat camper? I think the really large RVs have a 40000.

My Bigfoot is 30,000. I imagine the other big campers would be about the same. As a guideline, 30,000 should be enough in any well insulated camper, judging by my own experience. I do have thermal window that help a lot and two golden retrievers that are a plus in real cold weather rolleyes.gif
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Posted 21 December 2008 - 10:12 AM

QUOTE (jimh @ Dec 18 2008, 09:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How big do you think it should be to heat camper? I think the really large RVs have a 40000.



My Citation Supreme 5'er has the Polar Package and comes with a 40K BTU dual stage furnace. It sure keeps it toasty in there with the slide closed or open. Citation makes a great product, just ask Jerbear........................Steve... fing32.gif

On Edit: Please remember the larger the furnace the more propane used. Now I can see why my 5'er is equipped with 2 X 30# bottles.......

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Posted 21 December 2008 - 10:33 AM

Gotta chime in on this one. We have done limited cold weather camping but our Citation keeps us toasty warm. These units are well insulated and ready for the cold weather. Snowy not sure if they are still making campers. Thought I heard they have put the camper line on temp hold. Also heard they may be moving to the States.Lets hope the manufacturers that are still going can hang on!
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Posted 21 December 2008 - 10:47 AM

QUOTE (Dean @ Dec 21 2008, 09:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My Bigfoot is 30,000. I imagine the other big campers would be about the same. As a guideline, 30,000 should be enough in any well insulated camper, judging by my own experience.


Why 30K why not 40K? smile.gif Did you try a 20K? Seriously though, if the Bigfoot is more insulated wouldn't it need less not more? Also, the net effect of a big furnace is more extreme swings in temp. Is that better? I don't think so.

At least, from what I've seen on buying house furnaces, bigger isn't always better and leads to much more drastic temperature swings. In any case, that's why I have the small electric...to stop the furnace from coming on due to the noise. I would imagine a 30 or 40 would be even louder.

A 26' fiver with slides has to have at least 3 times the volume inside compared to my camper...but I could be wrong.
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Posted 21 December 2008 - 11:09 AM

QUOTE (jimh @ Dec 21 2008, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why 30K why not 40K? smile.gif Did you try a 20K? Seriously though, if the Bigfoot is more insulated wouldn't it need less not more? Also, the net effect of a big furnace is more extreme swings in temp. Is that better? I don't think so.

At least, from what I've seen on buying house furnaces, bigger isn't always better and leads to much more drastic temperature swings. In any case, that's why I have the small electric...to stop the furnace from coming on due to the noise. I would imagine a 30 or 40 would be even louder.

A 26' fiver with slides has to have at least 3 times the volume inside compared to my camper...but I could be wrong.

30K is what the engineers decided to put into the 3000 series campers, I believe that the smaller units had smaller furnaces. The 30K is great when we need it, most of the time we just use the heat strip or the small electric. In real cold weather I like the furnace because it keeps the basement warm.

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Posted 21 December 2008 - 01:10 PM

QUOTE (JerBear @ Dec 18 2008, 11:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Gotta chime in on this one. We have done limited cold weather camping but our Citation keeps us toasty warm. These units are well insulated and ready for the cold weather. Snowy not sure if they are still making campers. Thought I heard they have put the camper line on temp hold. Also heard they may be moving to the States.Lets hope the manufacturers that are still going can hang on!
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Posted 21 December 2008 - 02:18 PM

Another vote here for Citation. I keep kicking myself for swithing campers. cry_smile.gif

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